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docgreen9
September 28th, 2005, 10:53 AM
Well Im finally done with putting it all together. Now comes the shakedown runs then pull it all back apart to finish and paint. Here are some pics.
https://home.comcast.net/~docgreen9/barstool/index.htm
WarPaint
September 28th, 2005, 02:55 PM
I like the steering. How sturdy is it? Like i post last time. I did the same with mine. I just have mine at the base. And it doesn't give any. Now you have to send some video. And hey! a Barfly racer shirt would look great on you.
Thanks for the pics.
docgreen9
September 28th, 2005, 05:49 PM
Hey Warpaint ... the steering is really stable. If you really jerk on it and put all your weight on it to get it to move, it'll flex down at the base of the frame. But, I'm not doing that riding it. I got to set my toe better. It's sooo fun to ride. Yea i need to get a shirt ... but I want the one that comes with the HONEY already installed in it.
WarPaint
September 28th, 2005, 09:08 PM
Yep she makes anything look good. But sorry you will have to find a honey to put in yours. Trust me take your BSR to the track on race day and they will come to you. Send us some more pics when you get it all done. I will do the same with mine. I'm going to try and put a real flame job on it. hope it works out.
Mike Bean
September 28th, 2005, 11:58 PM
Nice job Doc! I can still remember the feeling when I took my first ride. :)
We are currently working on a new design called the Classic Cruiser. We are hoping to have it finished in the next week. I will upload some pics on the progress this weekend.
-mbean
Well Im finally done with putting it all together. Now comes the shakedown runs then pull it all back apart to finish and paint. Here are some pics.
https://home.comcast.net/~docgreen9/barstool/index.htm
josullivan
September 29th, 2005, 12:10 AM
Hey doc,
That looks really good. I really like the way you did your steering. I found a way to modify mine to help stiffen it up and make it less noisy. It steers pretty smoothly even though it only rolls due to gravity(no motor yet). I can't wait to see yours after you paint it. Try to post a video or two, they're always fun to watch! Congrats on finishing!! :cheers:
docgreen9
September 29th, 2005, 09:58 PM
Thanks guys for the kind remarks.
Just got done taking it out on several more runs this evening tweaking stuff and tightning things that I accidently left loose ... lol
Haven't wiped out yet but almost twice. That barstool top is slicker than owl snot cuz it's old and hard.
I broke the engine in last night then drained the oil and filled her up with Synthetic ... you know for that extra power ... lol.
I got more parts coming. Going to screw around with the brakes some more. I have a couple ideas I'm gonna try out. Also found a diff made by Comet, same people that make the torq-a-verter. I'd love to put an open diff on this thing so it'd turn easier. Maybe next stool???
Later
RUBICON
October 2nd, 2005, 09:42 AM
Did you see the Comet I have on my stool?....Solid axles are the cheap way to go...and if riding on 2 wheels is your trick its the only way....but if you want to turn on a dime on pavement...without a major amount of weight transfer...you will be surprised with a diff....another note...if you want to stop straight and fast from speed...you need to move the brake disk to the diff also....slow speed stuff works fine braking one axle...good luck
docgreen9
October 2nd, 2005, 09:13 PM
Rubicon
I saw your new stool but didn't notice the diff ... do you have any pics of the back end? Thanks.
WOTracer
October 4th, 2005, 06:29 AM
Just been lurking on the site. I too have finished my barstool about two weeks ago. Started with a live axle but went to a differential made by Peerless. My reasoning is that turning was to wide and down right unpleasant, on four wheels. Turning on two wheels is okay but not all the time. On of the BSR members (Rubicon) used the Comet diff, which look quite excellent! I had a Peerless that I had for years and made the conversion, two days after getting it on the road!! The previous post stated that you must have the brake connected to the diff which is quite true. On the Comet you must weld a flange to the diff to connect the brake disc. Cool thing on the Peerless, both the gear and brake are a bolt-on affair!! Also two bearing w/hanging per side are needed for proper axle/diff bearing support.
Steve
will try to post some pics......
WOTracer
October 4th, 2005, 06:41 AM
Prior my diff, I designed and used (for a whole 24 hr period!!), a rear wheel hub with bearings. Basically a modifed hub with two bearings. I milled out a front hub (steel) and then welded a tube (1.75) the would fit the bearing and race. The bearings are held in the hub as well as kept in place by axle collars. The design is quite simple. NOW why did change to this or why did I put in the effort to put a diff?? Well for one, is was one wheel drive, two I could not do a wheelie and three why not!!
Steve
RUBICON
October 5th, 2005, 10:41 AM
This is the way " fun karts " have often been designed..one wheel drive with a free wheel on the other side...fun karts are for tearing up turf anyway...I like the response about the Peerless...as I remember the unit is shaped like a tin can...flat on both ends with a bolt pattern on each side that can accept a sprocket and/or brake disk. I think in addition to internet sites...Northern Tool ( formally Northern Hydraulics ) sells them cheaper than the Comet....along with "fun kart" style parts ( spindles, bearing hangers, sprockets, band brakes, mower engines, cables, etc. ) ...As I said in an earlier comment...I stop short on expressing opinions that are judgemental on style or purpose...IT"S ALL GOOD.....Some like the simplicity and clean look of a straight axle....the only performance advantage to straight axles are riding on 2 wheels...major cool....and they are less expensive...The diff offers a proven method of reducing turning radius and effort...but the tradeoff is a technical challenge to install one...one point...some diff manufacturers suggest that you can get away with only 3 bearings on the axle...I think because they think the diff case bushings and case strength can handle the radial loading....I do not agree with that...you need 4 bearings...and lots of locking collars...for mine I sat and starred at the rear for some time before I decided it all would fit....it does..but with no room to spare....a final note...to install 2 more bearing supports the frame will need to modified to have tubing where the additional bearings go...and this must clear the sprocket and brake disk...good luck...remember...LIFE IS AN DADVENTURE...ENJOY THE RIDE!
RUBICON
October 5th, 2005, 10:46 AM
DocGreen....do a forum search for " rubicon " and there is a reply that has 2 pics attached of my diff...I do not have the pic files on my machine ( I sent them from my sons camera and did not save them )...good luck...it's worth the effort....and adds performance that most BSR's will never experience....
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