Disc Brakes

[Mike Bean]

There are two types of braking systems you can use for your bar stool. The mechanical and the hydraulic.

As always the best is going to cost more, but that does not bean you can not use a less expensive alternative when it come to the brakes.

If you have the extra money to spend you should go with the hydraulic type. Although there is a little bit more work in the installation but you will get your best stopping power.

The mechanical brakes are a less expensive way to go. Just beware there are some el-cheapo sets on eBay for around $39.00 that include the caliper and disc which are not very good. I would suggest calling some go-kart suppliers and spend a few extra bucks for a good brake disc and caliper. Remember you get what you pay for.

Also be sure to ask about how to mount the caliper. Find out if a caliper mount comes with or if you can purchase one. I know the one on eBay you have to fabricate the mount.

Good Luck!

[WarPaint]

Hey there !

Well I just haven't had the time from printing t shirts to work on my BSR.

But i do have a ?. I got my diskbrake in. And it look alot like the one on your BSR mbean. But the ? i have is . It came with a bracket that holds the caliper. But it just slides into the bracket. If You could send me some pics or tell me how to mount this thing. That would help me out alot.

Thanks

[Mike Bean]

Hey Warpaint,

Sorry for the long delay on getting back to you on this post. I am uploading some photos for you to see how I setup my brake caliper on my BSR.

Hope this helps you...

[Mike Bean]

Here is another photo of the inside setup for the cable...

[monkey-1]

Warpaint,

Did you buy a Carlisle caliper? If so they have a 'floating' mount and I can help you out with pics of one like that. You can use that caliper with that mount or make a rigid mount like the one below. I didnt use that floating caliper and made a ridig mount for my application.

[WarPaint]

i don't know what kind it is. It came with the disk. here are some pics of it. i belive it is the floating kind. What would be better . Floating or rigid?

[WarPaint]

Here are some more.

[WarPaint]

And last one

[Mike Bean]

I would say the floating. I am not real happy with mine, I do however have that floating bracket and I am going to see if my caliper will fit in that.

Mike

[monkey-1]

I like the floating mount, just not enough to pay 12 bucks for it. It will work with either mount if you have it mounted correctly in relation to the brake disk.

[docgreen9]

Mbean & Monkey... I picked up most of my parts yesterday from TS Racing and I almost bought the mechanical caliper setup but something in my head told me not to cheap out and go with the hydrolic kit. So I kicked in the extra $100 for the hyd brakes. Guess I'm playing it safe :?

[Mike Bean]

Hey DocGreen9,

After building my first BSR with the mechanical brake, I would definitely opt for the hydraulic next time. Don't get me wrong, my BSR stops ok, but I would prefer to have more stopping power in case someone pulls out in front of me...

mbean

[monkey-1]

I used the MCP hydraulic brakes on my BSR and they worked great. They are a little messy to get bled and if you have leaks they can be a nightmare. The hydraulic brakes are the best way to go, no question there.The Carlisle calipers are about the best you can by when it comes to low buck brakes.

[WarPaint]

Ok . got my brakes on. Works great. Not much room for the bracket but made it work. Does anyone know what brand this is . So i can find pads for it later. I will have to get a smaller bolt for the top one . it may hit my barstool.

[WarPaint]

Hey also got my steering wheel in and installed. I like it !!!!!!!!

[monkey-1]

WP,

Looks great. Your caliper is made by Carlisle and you can get pads easily. Thats the best mechanical caliper out there. I am using one like that on my Radio Flyer.

Also, if you are going to use hand controls on your BSR, let me know. I finally got some for my steering wheel and got them mounted. I didnt want to cut the foam down on mywheel to get them to fit and these fit great. I am going to replace the long levers with some 2 finger clutch levers, but here are a couple of pics so you can see what I am working with:

http://www.studmonkeyracing.com/forums/rfwheel1.jpg

http://www.studmonkeyracing.com/forums/rfwheel2.jpg

[WarPaint]

Thank you monkey for the info on the caliper. And the wheel looks great. Where did you find your steering wheel ? I had to watch e bay for months before i seen this one. None of the auto or buggy shops around here had it. i got mine with shipping and all it cost me 22.00 and looks new. man i can't wait till my engine gets here. And oh i seen your radio flyer months back on the welding web. And that is going to be my next build.

[monkey-1]

If you only paid $22 for your steering wheel, you stole it. I paid over twice that for mine. It was a special order and there is only one place in Mississippi that could even order it and lucky for me it was local.

[FatDog]

Warpaint,
you have a bearing attached next to your caliper and one near your left rear wheel in that picture. Do you also have a bearing on your rear right side?
I hadn't thought about using more then two for the rear axle. Maybe putting a third bearing near the caliper keeps the axle steady under heavy braking?
Mike

[WarPaint]

Warpaint,
you have a bearing attached next to your caliper and one near your left rear wheel in that picture. Do you also have a bearing on your rear right side?
I hadn't thought about using more then two for the rear axle. Maybe putting a third bearing near the caliper keeps the axle steady under heavy braking?
Mike

You know i was going to do that with the extra bearing's I have. But it works great with just the two. I got it so close to the one on the right that it keeps it steady. Now I weigh 290 lb's. So stopping was my major concern. In fact if i lock my legs in the barstool legs and hit the brake , I can leave two nice rubber tracks. And i can do that because my brake and throttle is on the steering wheel. Keep's your legs free to do things. Like kicking at the dogs when they chase you. I havent found any problems with the design of this BSR yet. Can't wait to get it back together from paint.

[1100kaw]

how about front brakes?
i know it would be a no no, to use to stop, i'm thinking line lock-burn outs yea!!!!
anyone have an idea for basic cheep front brakes that could be hydrolic, or cable to use as a line lock???
i've seen some trick set up's for the shifter karts, but they are $$$$$$

[moto1fast]

Hello, You could use a Polaris 4 wheeler Hand master cyclinder it has a parking brake locking lever built on it! You just pull in on the hand lever to release it! You could find some small rotors off a four wheeler also and do some mods to mount them. It could work as you wanted!:wave:

[sniffles]

i gotta say, front brakes sound real cool but with all that brake in the front with a high center of gravity that would probably send you over. just what i think. my grandpa was explaining and said with a high center of gravity youd fly over the handlebars.

[monkey-1]

I would be nervous about using them as well, but they a can be done.
http://outlawracing.net/images/wf/wf6.jpg

[RUBICON]

Front brakes on a Barstool.....major COOL...love the excess,,over the top stuff.....I do a lot of stuff that is excess and works...there are a few of us.....just don't use them too hard!

[Canadiankid]

Can you upgrade from mechanical to hyd and use the same disc or would I have to change that to.

[RUBICON]

Disks are pretty much the same...You need a caliper, caliper bracket, line, fittings, master cylinder, and a pedal linked to the master cylinder....or you can find a motorcycle type handlebar master cylinder....works great...mine will lock the wheels with 2 fingers on the lever...good luck

[tqm3]

I'm going to change mine out to a floating mount. Mine sucks once the brakes are used a couple of time they drag on the stationary side....:cussing: I would say the floating. I am not real happy with mine, I do however have that floating bracket and I am going to see if my caliper will fit in that.

Mike

[Bman2009]

Im my opinion floating outweighs ridgid. It comphensates for rotor runout and pad wear. It does have additional play in the hanger tho since they arent exactly precision machined..

[DCHammer]

This thread looks as good as any place to bring this up.

Floating caliper/rigid rotor?
Floating rotor/rigid caliper?

Which to use?

My brakes are coming with the floating mounts so I have a choice.

The only think making me lean one way right now is the fact that my rotor isn't drilled and tapped for a set screw. Not a major task, but unnecessary if I let the rotor float and just bolt the caliper to a solid bracket.

[tqm3]

This thread looks as good as any place to bring this up.

Floating caliper/rigid rotor?
Floating rotor/rigid caliper?

Which to use?

My brakes are coming with the floating mounts so I have a choice.

The only think making me lean one way right now is the fact that my rotor isn't drilled and tapped for a set screw. Not a major task, but unnecessary if I let the rotor float and just bolt the caliper to a solid bracket.

IMHO floating Caliper, rigid disk....:thumb:

[caribooarcher]

you really gotta think about this one ........NOT ......... lmao :laughing: