(Loud Steering Shaft Vibration Problem)

[Garman351]

Hi Everyone:
I have been fighting a steering wheel shaft vibration that drives me crazy.
I have added some rubber washers to the top of the part that holds the shaft in place,just under the locking collar. (Did not help)

I thought I had read some place People are using a new steering shaft block type with a rubber insert to eliminate that noise. The steering shaft goes into the bottom plate that turns the tie rods, and all I see is metal.

Can anybody help me get rid of this noise. My stool looks cool until I start it! With both hands on the wheel it does dampen the vibration some.

Thanks
Garman351:wave:

[Mike Bean]

Can you post a photo of your steering system? I designed a plastic bushing that goes inside the steering column and prevents all vibration that can come from the steering shaft shaking due to engine vibration.

I believe there are also photos on this form of what the inside of the steering column looks like with the bushing.

Mike Bean

[BAR-TAB]

If the steering column itself will actually telescope upward an inch or 2, Lift it up and wrap some electrical tape around the collar then let it sink back down in. It wears off after a while but I just redo it and Im good to go for awhile again. Its a very cheap fix that Im happy with. And it definately works.

[Garman351]

Can you post a photo of your steering system? I designed a plastic bushing that goes inside the steering column and prevents all vibration that can come from the steering shaft shaking due to engine vibration.

I believe there are also photos on this form of what the inside of the steering column looks like with the bushing.

Mike Bean

Hello Mike:
I have read about the steering wheel shaft solution you came up with.
I have a 5/8 shaft going through a aluminum block that is app: one inch squire about four inches long. A couple of bolts goes through the block to hold it in place to a couple of support braces. I bought a new rocket bar stool and you can check out the pictures on their web-sit that will show you what kind of a set-up I have. (You have a great fix and you should be able to make some cash off your idea) In fact I would contact Rocket direct and tell the owner you have a solution for them to solve their vibration issues. This sounds like a wide spread problem and I would like to buy a new steering block from you.

Please look at Rockets web-sit to make sure we are on the same page on this. www.rocketbarstool.com (http://www.rocketbarstool.com)

I will measure my steering shaft support block and give you actual measurments with in the next couple of days.

Thanks
Garman351:thumb: :thumb:

[Mike Bean]

Hi Garman,

I went to the rocket barstool site and there are no clear photos of the actual steering column that I could find.

Can you post some of your and what you need rebuilt for me to take a look at?

Thanks,
Mike

[Garman351]

Hi Garman,

I went to the rocket barstool site and there are no clear photos of the actual steering column that I could find.

Can you post some of your and what you need rebuilt for me to take a look at?

Thanks,
Mike

Hi Mike:
I left an email to Rob Caho. President of Rocket Bar Stool Mfg. He is very interested in your solution to the steering vibration problem. Rob would like you to contact him so he can either send digital photos to you or even drop ship a block to you for you to take a look at. Send over a email to. rocketbarstool@msn.com the official web-site he has you cannot leave him any email message's?

I will send over to you measurments later today on what I have.

(Great Stuff) I will be very happy to have this problem solved.

Garman351:cheers:

[Garman351]

Hi Mike:
I left an email to Rob Caho. President of Rocket Bar Stool Mfg. He is very interested in your solution to the steering vibration problem. Rob would like you to contact him so he can either send digital photos to you or even drop ship a block to you for you to take a look at. Send over a email to. rocketbarstool@msn.com the official web-site he has you cannot leave him any email message's?

I will send over to you measurments later today on what I have.

(Great Stuff) I will be very happy to have this problem solved.

Garman351:cheers:

8-10-06
Hi Mike:
I measured my upper steering block last night and it is a pretty simple design.

It is made out of aluminum 3 3/4 Long and is an inch square block, with a hole just big enough one the one end on top for my 5/8 steering shaft to go through it. The other end sideways app: 1/4 to 1/2 from the end block bolts to my upper support barces. It is a 1/2 bolt going through it. What I mean is a 1/2 socket or wrench fits the bolt end or the nut end, I'm not sure what size the shaft is?

Just for clarification: What I mean by a one inch square block is all four corners measure one inch each each side. I'm sure that means a square block.

Let me know if you can help me. Of course the end where the steering shaft goes through the block has to be at least 1/4 inch from the end or a little more so the end of the block will not break from the steering shaft pressure.

Thanks
Garman351

[Mike Bean]

Garman,

I am pretty sure I know what your talking about. But I need some photos to be 100%. If there are any special holes I need to see photos of them and what size they are.

Thanks.

[Garman351]

HI Mike:
It is just as I had nailed it down for you!

The new steering block with the plastic insert is as simple as I had described it. (BMI) has a plastic steering block they sell, but have no idea if it is strong enough or what size it is etc. It is designed for a 5/8 shaft.

A squire one inch block 3 3/4 inch long with a incert etc to fit into the one inch block would work fine on the top side. at the other end through the side of the block a hole big enough to put a 1/2 bolt through it would work perfectly. 1/2 in bolt again would be what a socket or wrench would work at either the bolt end or the nut end to tighten or remove the bolt.

Can you make a prototype? Again Rocket MFg wants to buy the finished product from you if you are interested? Rocket is a major player in the Mfg market of quality stools. They produce the best I have ever seen!
Please get back with me.


What is your thoughts on a plastic block with the proper holes in it?

Garman

[jim-iceman]

I have fund that a brass bushing from my hardware store in is 5/8" inside dia:and the out side is 3/4" Dia:

[Mike Bean]

Garman,

Without seeing the actual bushing I really cannot say. As I mentioned before if I had a photo of the bushing you have I am sure we can build one that would be more than sufficient for your needs.

Mike

[Garman351]

I have fund that a brass bushing from my hardware store in is 5/8" inside dia:and the out side is 3/4" Dia:

(Iceman)
THANK YOU FOR THE HELP! YOU HAVE READ WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE VIBRATION PROBLEM I'M HAVING!

WHY WOULD A BRASS INCERT INTO THE ALUMINUM STEERING BLOCK STOP THAT TERRIBLE NOISE I'M EXPERIENCING? IS IT BECAUSE BRASS IS A SOFT METAL?

(HAVE YOU SOLVED THIS SAME PROBLEM BY INCERTING A BRASS SLEEVE
INTO THE UPPER SUPPORT BLOCK?

PLEASE GET BACK WITH ME ON THIS. BRASS BUSHING WHAT IS IT USED FOR NORMALLY SO WHEN I GO INTO THE HARDWARE STORE I KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR.

GARMAN351 :cheers:

[Garman351]

Garman,

Without seeing the actual bushing I really cannot say. As I mentioned before if I had a photo of the bushing you have I am sure we can build one that would be more than sufficient for your needs.

Mike

Come on Mike:
It's only a inch square peace of aluminnum that is 3 3/4 long and has a hole on the one top for my 5/8 steering shaft to go through it. The other end simply has a bolt going through sidways to bolt to my upper support braces to hold the block in place.

Iceman sounds like he has the solution already. It's pretty simple I just find a peace of brass or plastic that will fit tightly over my 5/8 steering shaft and drill out my upper support block so what ever is on the shaft will fit into the new hole in the steering block.

Thanks for all the help.

Garman351:hammer:

[Mike Bean]

Garman,

The reason I asked for a photo is we need to see the design and the actual holes or mounts for the support.

I can't see anyone building something without even looking at what they are trying to fix/repair. :rofl:

I suggest you take your BSR to a local machine shop or someplace where you live and let them look at and I am sure they can fabricate a part for you.

Good Luck!

Mike

[Garman351]

Garman,

The reason I asked for a photo is we need to see the design and the actual holes or mounts for the support.

I can't see anyone building something without even looking at what they are trying to fix/repair. :rofl:

I suggest you take your BSR to a local machine shop or someplace where you live and let them look at and I am sure they can fabricate a part for you.

Good Luck!

Mike

Thanks Mike:
Have you solved the noise problem with a plastic bushing or what did you do & use. Where did you get the part from and what dept did you find it in. Your pisture looked to me like you had your bottom steering shaft end go into a plastic block down by the pitman arm?

Garman351

[Mike Bean]

We have no vibration noise at all with our design. It is a custom made bushing that we came up with. We make them here.

We came up with the idea a long time ago because of the same problem you are having.

Mike

[Garman351]

We have no vibration noise at all with our design. It is a custom made bushing that we came up with. We make them here.

We came up with the idea a long time ago because of the same problem you are having.

Mike

Hi Mike:
Why is it every time I ask a question you never answer it???

You always seem to talk in circles?

"Custom made bushing a long time ago" You posted a thread to another fellow who actually worked with you only a few weeks ago to solve this problem, and this guy actually fabricated it for you! I seen your blue prints.

I know what to do and thanks mike, you could of talked to Rob President of Rocket Mfg and made some money to solve this problem on a very large scale!

(This thread is closed in my opinion) Mike. Thanks again I now know what I have to do thanks to you.

garman

[toadsdad]

The bushing you are using is from a racing go kart. You can get them at any racing go kart shop. I pick mine up for about $6 or so. I have them on my barstool and my wagon. A real easy piece to get hold of.

Matt