My BSR Build Up Thread.....

[Aaron871]

Going to do a front suspension, Off-Road theme...







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[Snakester]

Looks like you have a good start...Keep fabbing !!!:cheers:

[elvergon]

Yes sir...but painted right now? you still need to weld the engine plate...you´ll need to take away some paint for that...but that´s k...

Good job so far...

[Woodchuckscustoms.com]

Looks Great! I like the elongated front end. It looks like ya got all the right tools, a big hammer :hammer: a saw and that lonely Keg in the backround!:lush: But what's the measuring tape for? I hope you keep track of the Keg Level with it.:cheers:

[Aaron871]

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[Aaron871]

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[Aaron871]

Yes sir...but painted right now? you still need to weld the engine plate...you´ll need to take away some paint for that...but that´s k...

Good job so far...


Don't sweat the paint, we're just getting started.....


edit- oh yeah, if ya didn't notice I am guilty of spilling a beer....:bigcry:

[moto1fast]

Man! You should be Banned from the Forums for sure! Spilling a Good Beer is Grounds for that!! LOL:rofl: Looking good on that front end. Are your A arms level with the frame? I understand the paint to! Better to have paint on Steel than Rust!! Some times designing some parts takes time and if weather is not right rust can setup overnight! Keep up the good work! DO NOT SPILL NO MORE!!! LOL:laughing:

[Aaron871]

Are your A arms level with the frame?


The spindles on the front are 3/4" higher than the rear axle. I thought that the front was suppose to sit lower than the rear?

There is 9* camber built into the front to make it return to center.

I'm thinking 24" turff tires...:D

[moto1fast]

You are right the front should sit a little lower to help it from comming up evertime you gas on it!! I just could not tell in pictures if it was!The tire size will surely raise it up enough! Cant wait to see the tires mounted on it and standing on its own!! Keep up the good work and keep us posted!!:thumb:

[elvergon]

I like a lot the front design!

Simple suspension by the way...how much travel are you expecting with those shocks?

[Snakester]

Comming along nicely...A lot of Fabbing on that front end. It's going to look really wild w/24" Tires!!! Man that thing is going to be way off the ground.:lush:

[Aaron871]

I like a lot the front design!

Simple suspension by the way...how much travel are you expecting with those shocks?

Those max out at 2" of travel. They are mostly for looks. I'll see how it rides and may weld them in place to keep them from traveling if it too much. I just love the look of them.....:cheers:

[Woodchuckscustoms.com]

:dizzy: Kick Ass Front Grill!:hot: Looks Good keep on building.
And about that beer spilling shazit! What's up with that?:laughing:
Can't have that Dude...:lush:

[Aaron871]

I really liked the handle bars until I mounted them on the frame.


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Not sure what to do with them now.....

[moto1fast]

I think the handle bars look great. I think what throws it off is where they are mounted! Can you make them mount about half way in the grill. In other words lower them down so it does not look like it is just sitting on top of the shaft. Keep the angle of them the same! I can picture them down farther and then I beleive they would look great on there! Hey was that wet towel used to wipe up another spilled Beer???? LOL

[Aaron871]

I think the handle bars look great. I think what throws it off is where they are mounted! Can you make them mount about half way in the grill. In other words lower them down so it does not look like it is just sitting on top of the shaft. Keep the angle of them the same! I can picture them down farther and then I beleive they would look great on there!

not sure I'm following you. Do you mean to mount the shaft to the handlebars in the middle of the handlebars? If I lower them much I will need to lower the seat too.

[moto1fast]

Yes, mount them lower about 2 or 2 1/2". Should still be high enough to clear your legs unless you are pretty tall!

[Nitefall]

May be it is my eyes, but the pictures i see does not allow any travel in the front end.
It looks like you got the shocks mounted to all square stock that won't move?
Is it my old eyes or am i missing something?
IF THERE IS TRAVEL DID YOU ALLOW FOR A LIMITING STRAP ECT...:blob_red:
TX
NITEFALL

[elvergon]

It seems that pic #1 shows that the square tube to which the shock is mounted is an "A arm" that (damn black paint) looks like it has some pivots.

Hopefully it has if not...that´s just for looks :P

[Aaron871]

May be it is my eyes, but the pictures i see does not allow any travel in the front end.
It looks like you got the shocks mounted to all square stock that won't move?
Is it my old eyes or am i missing something?
IF THERE IS TRAVEL DID YOU ALLOW FOR A LIMITING STRAP ECT...:blob_red:
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NITEFALL

I used the bushings and ends from an old set of shocks. They are mounted under the frame.

I won't need limiting straps, the coil-overs don't seperate...

I think I'm going to go with a simple T-handel or some dirt bike handlebars.

At this point I think I need some tires and a motor before I go much further.

[Aaron871]

OK
I feel better now that I cut those handlebars off...
I'm thinking of either using the top of a keg as a steering wheel or mounting the keg horizontal over the engine and riding it like a horse...
Oh, I realized that 24" tires would be sewer-side so I'm thinking about 16" snow blower tires.
















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[moto1fast]

Hey, I just put motorcycle handle bars on mine and got the barrel cut out and put on Take a look at it!:thumb:

[Aaron871]

If I mount the Keg horizontal over the engine, I would be able to fit that 11 horse Honda I saw at the pawn shop today...

[moto1fast]

Yep, With a barrel cut out you could put just about any engine in it! It hides everything to. Make a trailer also to pull behind it with 2 kegs up on ends to carry passengers and a Full one for when you stop!! LOL

[Aaron871]

But then I would have to build another one so that I could have a Bar Stool Racer and a Beer Stool Racer.....:laughing:

[moto1fast]

Sounds like a good excuse to build another one to me! LOL

[Nitefall]

WITH THE MOTOR MOUNTED INSIDE, I THINK YOU SHOULD PUT A VIDEO OF IT RUNNING ON THIS SITE, AND THAT WOULD BE W/ SOUND. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE RESULTS... W/ A HEADER PIPE AND NO MUFFLER INSIDE THE BARRELL, GET BACK JACK, THAT IS GOING TO BE "KILLER!!!".
SUPER JOB!:blob_red:
NITEFALL

[elvergon]

I´m sure you´ll cut some parts of th barrel for making the air intake and for air cooling the engine too right moto?...

But that looks sick :D!

yeah...I didn´t like too much the handlebars you made aaron :$ sorry peep! but im sure it will look beter with the bike ones...

Now you got the excuse bro ;)

[Aaron871]

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[Aaron871]

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[moto1fast]

Now Thats a Engine!! LOL. You might want to cut a barrel out and build a roll cage for that much power! LOL :laughing: You will not be lacking in Torque for sure! What are you going to use for the drive system? The Comet 40 setup with a Midshaft? That dude could become one mean rock climbing BSR with just a little more work!! Keep us posted!! I love it!!:thumb:

[Aaron871]

That exhaust is gonna be a problem... I'll have to make a custom header...

They make a tav2 for a 1" shaft. I was going to try it.

Will this engine work? Or will it just flip the thing over when I hit the gas? I've never driven a tav2, how slow is the transfer of power?

[monkey-1]

The progress looks great. Have you considered bump steer into your design? That thing with the higher center of gravity, the larger tires and bump steer will be a WILD ride.

[scooterpimp]

Hey!! Im Thinking Motorcycle z Bars Would Complement The Grill Work? Just An Idea. Lookin Good! Da Pimp.:cheers:

[Aaron871]

"z Bars" ????????

Got a pic?

[Aaron871]

Like these?


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[Aaron871]

or these?


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Your right, z-bars would be sweet. THANKS!!

[moto1fast]

Yep Z bars will look great with your front Grill!! The tav2 is pretty smooth but if you put the pedal to the metal at take off you will have front end lift for sure. Wheelie bars will be a must with that engine!! You better check clearance with the barstool legs. I do not believe it will fit under the stool without some mods!:wave:

[Aaron871]

Hey ScooterPimp, I owe you big for that idea.......








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[moto1fast]

I must say they look Great!! Good Job!! I will half to build a set of those!! They match the grill and design of your bar stool to a T!!:thumb:

[elvergon]

Hey bro, your build is going on very nicely...nice engine =)

Now... I don´t know but how are you planning to run your tie rods?

If you have them like now you´ll have an inverse steering like mine ;)
That´s pretty creative but...I don´t know if that´s the best...

to correct it using the spindles as you have them you´ll have to run the pitman arm in front of the steering axle... Just as I did....here´s a pic to watch....

Notice you just need to run the pitman arm as I did...you should not change the spindles or steering tie rods

[Aaron871]

Hey bro, your build is going on very nicely...nice engine =)

Now... I don´t know but how are you planning to run your tie rods?

If you have them like now you´ll have an inverse steering like mine ;)
That´s pretty creative but...I don´t know if that´s the best...

to correct it using the spindles as you have them you´ll have to run the pitman arm in front of the steering axle... Just as I did....here´s a pic to watch....

Notice you just need to run the pitman arm as I did...you should not change the spindles or steering tie rods



Holy cow that's heavy duty.... Looks like something I'd run on a Jeep....

Thanks for the help...:cheers:

[scooterpimp]

Aaron Thats The Ticket!! Those z Bars Ya Got Are Way Cool! Looks Good! Da Pimp:cool_dude:

[Aaron871]

Today I got the front bearings installed correctly, the rear lug's straightened out, the steering hooked up, a header made, engine plate welded, engine installed, stool mounts welded to frame......

Tonight's project is to empty the new fuel cell.....



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[Snakester]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH the best part of the build process...Getting the fuel cell empty........Just don't spill that BIG BEER on the floor...you will never live that down!!!:cheers: Snakester

[moto1fast]

As long as you are through with your work on it go ahead! But do NOT touch it until tomorrow after you empty your fuel cell tonight! I have seen some one once stop in between work and empty a fuel cell then get some drunk ideas on how to improve the build and it was not a pretty sight! LOL::laughing: He ended up in the hospital the next morning, bike was trashed, had about 5 tickets to pay and was going to jail after he healed up!! LOL:laughing: Just because he decided he could now out run a police radio with his new turbo charged motorcycle!!! It is looking great!! Your doing a awesome job!! Keep up the good work!! PS. DO NOT SPILL ANY!!!

[Aaron871]

Serious teck here:





There is a lot more beer on one of those than one might think....


That stuff ain't bad either.............. :fallingover:......... gotta get this fuel cell done.............

[moto1fast]

Ok, Give the keys to the wife if she aint wasted to!! LOL

[Aaron871]

I don't know how many of you have ever tried to weld a beer can, but it ain't easy.....
The splatter will go right through the can...
I drilled a 1/16" hole in the filler neck for a vent, I wasn't going to all the trouble of a check valve and return line on this thing.

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[moto1fast]

Looks Good!! I have found out that it is easier to braze it on than trying to weld. Not hard at all to blow a hole in it as thin as they are! But looks like you did a good job!! Keep us posted! I will post some pics of my Z bars I built. After seeing yours I just had to try a build me a set using 1" square tubing and 7/8" pipe! Keep up the good work!!:thumb:

[Woodchuckscustoms.com]

I have been building these tanks for a while now and I found that silver soider works the best . Silver soider is a bit pricey at 18.00 a tri-OZ. with 45% silver content thats about 88 inches of it.. But It's just like sweating copper pipes together. It does take some practice to get it down pat. I went through 36 bucks worth of silver soider before I got it. and my first tank looked like Shazit:cheers:

[Aaron871]

Dammit, that is sweet.:eek: :drinkup: :drinkup:
What did you do to plug the end where the tap vent was?
Where can I get one of those bungs and caps?
What are the fitting tolerances necessary before you can soider?

[moto1fast]

Yep, Woodchuck makes a great tank for almost less than you can get it and empty it and build it! I bought one from him and it is done right!! But if you just want to build one he wil probably sell you the Neck, cap, and bottem gas fitting! Be cool!!:wave:

[Woodchuckscustoms.com]

I plug the end of the keg with a slug from our laser drops. The neck and cap I stock but at this time I am sold out of the parts. after the 1st of the year I will be stocking up again.
Using silver soider is a bit tickey takes some proctice. I wish I still had the first tank I build just to show ya the nice holes I burnt through it with the tourch. Instead of saving it we filled it with gun powder and dried cracked corn and shot it with a 7.62x39mm tracer round and what a nice light show it made.:hot:

I am also looking to change the tank a bit. What do ya thing of having the tank sit upright and have a cap on top the tank were the tap vent is????

[moto1fast]

Woodchuck you could build one like that a make a mounting system in the design of a can holder! That would look cool! Just my thoughts!:cheers:

[Aaron871]

I plug the end of the keg with a slug from our laser drops. The neck and cap I stock but at this time I am sold out of the parts. after the 1st of the year I will be stocking up again.
Using silver soider is a bit tickey takes some proctice. I wish I still had the first tank I build just to show ya the nice holes I burnt through it with the tourch. Instead of saving it we filled it with gun powder and dried cracked corn and shot it with a 7.62x39mm tracer round and what a nice light show it made.:hot:

I am also looking to change the tank a bit. What do ya thing of having the tank sit upright and have a cap on top the tank were the tap vent is????



I think that it should sit sideways...... thanks for the info...

[Aaron871]

Hey Woodchuck,

How do you get that finish on the keg?

[Nitefall]

If you rapp the can w/ a wet towel as close as you can to your weld that will help.
When you clean it up, you will be verry happy.
Go to your near-by m/c shop and pick up a kit of "creamit". mix it up and pour it in the tank. open another beer and swerl it around and by the time you finish a couple of beers the tank will be fully lined and any "soft" areas will be reinforced.
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NITEFALL:cool_dude:

[kkuenemann]

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I am also looking to change the tank a bit. What do ya thing of having the tank sit upright and have a cap on top the tank were the tap vent is????

Woodchuck, I would like to see one build upright, isn't that the way a real keg is set when you get the beer out...LOL:cheers:

How much do you get for the tank now?

[Woodchuckscustoms.com]

Hey Woodchuck,

How do you get that finish on the keg?

It's a plastic cote paint I like to call it Getto Chrome:laughing:

[Woodchuckscustoms.com]

Woodchuck, I would like to see one build upright, isn't that the way a real keg is set when you get the beer out...LOL:cheers:

How much do you get for the tank now?

I was selling them for about 50.00 but I think I'm going to have a real chrome finish upgrade for the new year as soon as I find out the cost of that I will know what to charge for them.

[Woodchuckscustoms.com]

Woodchuck you could build one like that a make a mounting system in the design of a can holder! That would look cool! Just my thoughts!:cheers:


Good Call Brother!!!!!!!!!:cool_dude:

[Aaron871]

update....
Changed out the 1/2" drill rod in the steering column to 5/8"
Beefed up the steering column a little
Swapped out to some better heim joints (still need to beef up the drag links)
Painted the handelbars
Installed the brake and throttle levers and cables
I bought a brake kit, but am waiting for the convertor to come in before I install it so that I only have to remove the axle once.....


My step-son Jose
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[Aaron871]

Video!!!

I swapped in a 6.5 crate engine....

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[Aaron871]

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More video when the kids get home from school.....

[Nitefall]

looks ausome !!!!!
No wheelie bar will make it really intreresting.
nitefall:blob_red:

[elvergon]

That is looking awesome!

what happened to the 11 hp? I was wondering how well it would work out...

Still waiting for the vid to load...

Nice job though

[dtb69]

very nice ,those z bars are killer. i,m going to try to make them , keep up the good work dtb,,,,,,,,

[Aaron871]

Still learning how to drive it, turninng is crazy.
Also trying to get the carb adjusted right for higher rpm. I can't seem to figure this out?????? It wont run at full throttle, I've been adjusting the carb to no avail?????


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[moto1fast]

Hello, I think I figured out your problem with it not reving up. Is that Muffler Gutted out to flow easy? If not that muffler is too big and has too much back pressure for that small engine!! It will not let the motor run over a certain speed because it does not allow the exhaust to flow out fast enough!:smash: You can either gut it out or put a smaller more open one on it! I would use a striaght pipe about 18 to 20 inchs long! Hope that helps!

[Woodchuckscustoms.com]

Hey A Man! that looks really nice brother! Tell me what kinda hubs and rims are you using? Looks like ya might need a foot rest of the steeing up right. Looks goog I like the beefy lift it has:thumb:
Get some Video of it tearing it up it the mud:cheers:

[Aaron871]

Hello, I think I figured out your problem with it not reving up. Is that Muffler Gutted out to flow easy? If not that muffler is too big and has too much back pressure for that small engine!! It will not let the motor run over a certain speed because it does not allow the exhaust to flow out fast enough!:smash: You can either gut it out or put a smaller more open one on it! I would use a striaght pipe about 18 to 20 inchs long! Hope that helps!

That muffler is straight thru... (BTW thanks for all your help the other day:cheers: )


On a hunch from a friend, I restricted the flow into the intake with some tape. Now it runs full out. I can almost get a wheelie and it goes easily 40 mph (faster that I care to be on it).

Thanks to all that helped me in this build..... nice forum. I plan on sticking around for a while.

[moto1fast]

Needs air filter on it to also restrict air some so you get right ratio of air/Fuel mix! Did not notice that until I looked at your pics better! Looks like the stool leg was in the way for the original to fit on. Look at the pics on my dual wheel and see if you can make something like it! Here is a pic of it!

[Aaron871]

Nice, did you make the filter? If not, where did you get it?

[moto1fast]

Thats a Secret!! LOL It is a Valve cover breather from a v-8 auto. The thing about this one it unscrews and you can clean it out. It has a foam filter inside it. Here is some pics taken apart! I looked and bought it on ebay under Auto valve covers. I just lucked out on the part of it coming apart to clean! LOL:laughing: They work out great for this mod! I used a intake off a old Honda ATC 110 three wheeler and it bolted up and turned up and just grinded it down to press the breather on to it!

[fenters2005]

o.k. i'm jealus....

[Aaron871]

Needs a wheelie bar, new seat, and new muffler.

I flipped it yesterday.... front over back.... I'm all good, just a little road rash and a swollen jaw.:eek2:

[moto1fast]

Glad to here your ok! What happened! To much power to Quick? Did you have a wheelie bar on it when it happened? I guess your not worried about lack of power or not being able to pull a wheelie now! lol:laughing: Did you get a air filter on it? How about a video of the accident? If not can you make us one please! LOL:rofl: Sorry to here about your accident and tearing it up! I am sure it will happen to most of us if we ride it enough and get real brave and lose repect for the thing. The engines produce more power than people think! It may only be 6.5 Hp but it is 200cc in a lite wieght frame! Got to Love it!!:cheers: