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sweav
December 12th, 2006, 06:46 PM
I know it's been a while since I posted anything but I've been reading all of the posts from everyone. They had to do another surgery on my knee, hopefully the last one. I miss the barstool and am trying to convince my wife to let me build another one, just a little taimer. This is my latest build, it's what I use in parades now. It has a 12hp briggs that goes to a peerless 5 speed then to a peerless diff. w/ dual hydraulic calipers on the rear axle. A mini rack n pinion for steering. It will run 40+. Maybe I will convince her to let me build another barstool in the future. :hot:

Snakester
December 12th, 2006, 07:49 PM
SweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeT...Very cool project!!!:thumb: Snakester

moto1fast
December 12th, 2006, 09:22 PM
Cool, Looks very sharp! I have a Mini 37 ford replica body I am going to build some time this coming summer! I have to many projects right now to start on it! Glad to here from you and looking forward to your next build! I can write your wife a note Telling her to let you build another one because you will not feel like a man with out one!! If that would Help! LOL:laughing:

sweav
December 14th, 2006, 01:10 PM
Thanks Snake and Moto. I wanted to use a 366 body but there is only one co. I found that made the stretched body and they wouldn't sell just the body. I found a guy in MO that would sell me the 32 w/ a stretched body. Hey Moto, I told my wife that you would write me a note to build another barstool, she just shot me a look and said "we'll talk about it when you get back to work!" but for right now I'm content w/ the mini car. We've got a break in parades for about 2 months right now. I'm trying to figure out a way to set up a torq. converter up instead of the cent. clutch. Does anyone know what would happen if I just used the driver clutch and ran and just ran a pully in place of the driven clutch. I've talked to comet but the guy that I talked to wouldn't say either way, he just kept saying that "I should" use the driven clutch also. Also, I know that autometer makes an anolog tach for junoir dragsters for around $110, does anyone know anyone else that makes them or a way to hook up a tach to read right on a single cyl. (don't want a digital) I pulled the gov. off and want something to let me know when I'm over revving the motor other then the rod coming out of the block. Thanks for any help.

CritterBuddy
December 14th, 2006, 01:57 PM
Akdar?? :laughing: Hello, Noble!! Fellow Shriner here in OKC and India Shrine Center. Currently in Sand Fleas but used to belong to Okie Dokies out of Stillwater who drive a similiar vehicle. Used to also parade some with you guys around Tulsa. Knowing you are here makes 3 of us Oklahoma Shriners on this board that I know of.

Great looking ride!! 12 hp even!!

Is that a verticle or horizontal shaft motor? Can't really tell from the pics. If you change from a centrifical clutch I'd suggest you go ahead and run both the driver and driven unit. The driven unit is what gives you top speed. Don't know since you have a 5-speed tranny how it would hook up though. Send us more info!

sweav
December 14th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Hey Critter, 3? huh, you, me and who's the 3rd? Yah reverse makes all the difference in the world. That's if I can keep the tranny together, keep busting the shift keys. We're going to be parading out your way in the next year for the centenial parades. Nice to know that there are more Shriners on this board then myself. Did you head this way for the Ralston parade this year?Had some of the okie dokies there.

sweav
December 14th, 2006, 09:18 PM
Critter - It's a horizontal motor, the input to the trans is 5/8. On the driven part of the torq. conv., the pully doesn't change. Only the driven pully. Right? Another guy in the unit has a torq. conv. and he beats me out the hole ALL the time (and what's sad is I helped him set the gearing up!) The cent. clutch works great but I think I can get a better low end w/ the torq. conv. with out changing my gearing and loose my top end. Hey, on the Okie cars, don't they run a trans on them? Just trying to figure out what I can do on our down time to get the car better, you know bragging rights, right now I have the golden tow rope award because in the Tulsa parade of lights on the last corner of the parade I busted a rear wheel hub. I've taken care of that this week, the axle is going to get ripped out before the hub breaks again. You know from experience how hard these things get driven in parades.

CritterBuddy
December 15th, 2006, 09:46 AM
The 3rd board member who is a shriner is toadsdad. I haven't seen him post lately so don't even know if he still checks this board. Didn't get up your way this year and I'm now with the Sand Fleas who drive go-kart size blue dune buggys. Sure miss that '32 Ford roadster the Okie Dokies drive as it was a great crowd pleaser - got lots of photo ops with it. Do plan on getting around Tulsa more next year due to Oklahoma's centennial parades. I'll bet there will be a lot more parades next year. Fact is, I'm working on a special project for next year's Pote and the Pote after that has already talked to me about how we can participate in more parades. Will have to have a long talk with both as we do parades differently than how you guys do them.

Busting shift keys, huh? Are you shifting while moving? May have to let off the throttle when you shift. Okie dokies did away with their transmissions for just this reason. They run TAV2 torque converters for better performance and live axles now. Have to lean back the kingpins on the steering due to the live axle though. Whatever you do, keep the differential so you don't have to mess with your king pins and you can turn much easily.

The reason your friend is beating you out of the hole is probably because of the torque converter. With a torque converter (TAV2 or seperate driver and driven unit) both units move. The driver (on motor) handles your low end and the driven unit (on jackshaft, axle, etc.) handles the top end. In this way the combination gives you the best gear ratio needed for the load being applied to the motor which allows your motor to get into it's power range better. It also changes your gear ratio as you gain speed from about 8:1 (I think) to just over 1:1 on top end. Although the reverse is handy, the torque converter system is designed to replace transmissions in order to give you better all around performance.

sweav
December 15th, 2006, 11:30 AM
Yah I'm letting off when shifting, the way I have the car geared if someone in front of me slows down too much I have to put it back into second, then when we have a long straight away I normally pop it up into 4th. I'm not going to give up the trans, although just running a straight torq. conv. would be easier. I'm going to see how long these new keys will last and if they bust again I'll get a new brake shaft w/ 4 keys instead of the 2. This year we've started doing an elongated circle, we don't do any formation or anything. We don't have a regular showing of people to get to the point that we can do anything like that. I've talked to comet about the torq. conv. and they said I can run it on the vertical shaft motor connected to the trans with out any problems. I may try and get it set up in the next few months. Okies switched to live axles, didn't think they would do anything like that, makes it hard to do manuvers. On mine, I sat it up with around 5% caster and a few degrees of camber, for as long as the wheel base is with the diff. I can turn it around just shy of 1 1/2 lanes. It's the same as the Okies body but the nose has been stretched 5 inches and widened a little, then we chopped the fenders off and I did a little glass work to the front. If Toadsdad is doing as many parades as we are, it's no wonder why he hasn't posted latley. On the parades, with the centenial coming up next year, we've decided to go ALOT farther out then normal. Maybe we'll see each other at a few.